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	<title>Innovative Technology Weblog &#187; Rob Molenaar</title>
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		<title>Too much data on my box to run Longhorn Beta 3 natively, only option a Longhorn stampede</title>
		<link>http://www.buit.org/2007/05/15/too-much-data-on-my-box-to-run-longhorn-beta-3-natively-only-option-a-longhorn-stampeded/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 18:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Molenaar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am enjoying Longhorn beta 3 at the Longhorn TAP event in Seattle. I have got a little stampede going on. On my Vista box, a Dell 810 with 2 GB of ram, I&#8217;m able to run 4 Virtual Longhorn Beta instances. Two core installs and two regular installs, one of the regulars is a [...]]]></description>
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<p>I am enjoying Longhorn beta 3 at the Longhorn TAP event in Seattle.
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<p>I have got a little stampede going on. On my Vista box, a Dell 810 with 2 GB of ram, I&#8217;m able to run 4 Virtual Longhorn Beta instances.
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<p>Two core installs and two regular installs, one of the regulars is a Domain Controller.
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<p>I think I could another one or maybe two instances when I close a couple of other open programs, but because I&#8217;m running all from my local disk I have some limitations because of the amount of free diskspace
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<p>Rob
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		<title>A federated CMDB</title>
		<link>http://www.buit.org/2007/03/30/a-federated-cmdb/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 02:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Molenaar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I attended another â€œService Deskâ€? session, this time with plenty of XML and InfoPath. The purpose of the sessions was to show how to extend Service Manager. Maybe because of pre beta 1 code, or because it just didnâ€™t work as expected, some of the demos failed but it did not kill my enthusiasm. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font face="Calibri">Today I attended another â€œService Deskâ€? session, this time with plenty of XML and InfoPath. The purpose of the sessions was to show how to extend Service Manager. Maybe because of pre beta 1 code, or because it just didnâ€™t work as expected, some of the demos failed but it did not kill my enthusiasm.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Probably the highlight of todayâ€™s session was when Marielle, a colleague, asked a quite interesting question. She is rather small so could not reach the phone and behaved as one of those rock stars from the eighties. Her question, â€œWhat is your definition from a CMDB?â€?</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">The question was related to what content is stored in the Service manager CMDB. The presenters were talking about storing incident and change management data in the CMDB. After some confusion we managed to have a one on one with the CMDB program manager which actually brought the session to a much higher level. Anyway the CMDB stores CI information but Service manager can query more, it could even do SQL joins&#8230;</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">I think we talked about 15 minutes about the Service manager â€œFederated CMDBâ€? and this talk gave some inside in what Service Manager is doing at the moment, pull down information from different resources into the CMDB and future plans to leave the information where it is and look at the CMDB as a distributed database and use information from other databases in Service manager or somewhere else based on connectors.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">I tried to get some information about future plans regarding a connector to Carmine, Virtual Machine Manager because I really think that Virtualization on demand can help the Microsoft Dynamic System Initiative. Sadly enough not a clear answer on that one.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">What became clear is that there are plans to really dig into deployment based on DCM information. For example if an application has a DCM policy that defines that the application can only be installed on a clustered server, Service Manager could use this information to find a clustered server and install the application if it find a suitable candidate.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">One other nice example mentioned in the talk regarding the possibilities in Â Service Manager; suppose you want to order a laptop with specifics specs, you could ask Service Manager â€œWhich laptop has these hardware specs and has the least amount of hardware calls and no battery replacements?â€?</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">I am even more excited but have to go to the party, it looks like MS bought part of the town for a party</font>J</p>
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		<title>Orchestrating IT with dynamics inside the boundaries of ITIL/MOF</title>
		<link>http://www.buit.org/2007/03/29/orchestrating-it-with-dynamics-inside-the-boundaries-of-itilmof/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Molenaar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[MMS 2007]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[System Center]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[For some reason I get excited when I see a solution or framework that consist of multiple products and technologies. The last two years I spend a lot of time on Business Desktop Deployment which is a solution build around a huge list of products. A couple of weeks ago, I wrote a blog about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font face="Calibri">For some reason I get excited when I see a solution or framework that consist of multiple products and technologies. The last two years I spend a lot of time on Business Desktop Deployment which is a solution build around a huge list of products.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">A couple of weeks ago, I wrote a blog about the revitalization of the CMDB and I got some comments back that were really interesting, MS is trying to patent CMDB. Today I attended a great overview sessions about Microsoft System Center Service Manager, previous coded as Service Desk at MMS 2007 in San Diego (CA).</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Service Manager can be seen as the delivery system of the Microsoftâ€˜s Dynamic System Initiative and false in the last phase of Infrastructure Optimization, the dynamic phase.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">So why so exited? Let us look at an example scenario and demo from today:</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">A user goes to a SharePoint portal and requests an application. The application list is not a static database table but is actually provided by a SCCM 2007(SMS v4) connector which will be shipped as part of Service manager. Besides the list of applications there could be also some logic to find the userâ€™s desktop name by querying SCCM 2007 and the primary user for the machine. The user submits the request and Service manager will initiate a Change Request and queries the Active Directory (Service Manager will ship with a Active Directory connector) for the users manager. Active Directory is queried for the users manager email address and an email with the request is send to the userâ€™s manager. The userâ€™s manager receives the email and approves the request. Service manager receives the approval and send a software distribution task to SCCM 2007 over the SCCM 2007 connector. InÂ  the mean time the user requesting the software can see the approval in his Service Manager gadget on his / her desktop (see the previous blog from Stephan). After a while the software gets installed. This is not the end of the story because there is no one to close the call, or is there? Service After a while SCCM 2007 hard and software inventory runs on the machine and finds the installed software and reports this to Service manager. Service Manager get informed and closes the call.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Some similar automated scenarios are possible by defining DCM (Desired Configuration Management) policies, like checking for Antivirus Software. If DCM does not find a correct installation it fires a configuration mismatch, Service Manager logs an incident and send a repair job to SCCM 2007. The next DCM cycle the installation is checked and the incident is closed. Or using the CMDB as a deployment database, add assets to the CMDB, send them to SCCM 2007 and deploy with a baremetal scenario and check with hard and software inventory and DCM if theyÂ  reallyÂ are deployed and check with DCM if they are deployed wsith the correct configuration.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">When Service Manager ships, it will also have a SCOM 2007 (MOM v3) connector. And hopefully after a while also a Virtual Machine Manager connector servers can bee added when needed. </font></p>
<p>Am I too excited?</p>
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		<title>Deja vu</title>
		<link>http://www.buit.org/2007/03/27/deja-vu/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 02:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Molenaar</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[MMS 2007]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;am thinking about what happended last year at MMS 2006. During the keynote Microsoft started to talk about Application Virtualization and this was the next step in the Virtualization world. A bit strange because they did not have a Application Virtualization product. I believe the next day SoftTricity appeards on the stage and demoed their [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;am thinking about what happended last year at MMS 2006. During the keynote Microsoft started to talk about Application Virtualization and this was the next step in the Virtualization world. A bit strange because they did not have a Application Virtualization product. I believe the next day SoftTricity appeards on the stage and demoed their Application Virtualization Product. Weird&#8230;. Someone else on the stage during a keynoteÂ at your conferenceÂ demoing something you see as a the next step and you are not even close&#8230;.. We all know what happened three weeks later</p>
<p>And thenÂ today, thinking about last year, looking at the previous blog &#8220;Bob Muglia kicks off MMS 2007 with the launch of new System Center products and announces Key industry partners in his keynote address delivering the Building Blocks for Dynamic Systems Management&#8221; and looking at a SCCM 2007 demo. I see a couple of Operating System packages, some Microsoft packages, a Etrust AV package and&#8230;&#8230;. a SAP package, actually two.Â  mmmm I wonder why they have that package in SCCM 2007. 1 1/2 hour later the sessiojn finished and now I relly wonder why they had that package in SCCM 2007, they didn&#8217;t even use it, so why spend a Â license on it?</p>
<p>Â Anyway, theÂ SCCM 2007 session was quite interesting. Three weeks ago there was no need for a Â BDD version and SCCM 2007 Operating System Deployment was Enterprise ready. This time SCCM 2007 Operating System Deployment was Enterprise ready but there will be a BDD version for SCCM 2007. When I look at the way they handle those deployment variables like Timezone, Keyboard layout, Input Language I am absolutely sure that SCCM 2007 cannot live without BDD when deploying operating systems it in an Enterprise&#8230;</p>
<p>Still wondering why that SAP package was there&#8230;</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>The revitalization of CMDB</title>
		<link>http://www.buit.org/2007/03/05/the-revitalization-of-cmdb/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 08:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Molenaar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[About a few years ago Microsoft started to change the name of its suite of management products to System Center. It looked like SMS and MOM becoming a single product but that didnâ€™t happen. The only result is the introduction of a new product SCE (System Center Essentials) which is basically targeting the low end [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font face="Calibri">About a few years ago Microsoft started to change the name of its suite of management products to System Center. It looked like SMS and MOM becoming a single product but that didnâ€™t happen. The only result is the introduction of a new product SCE (System Center Essentials) which is basically targeting the low end market.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Just after the System Center name saw the light of day Microsoft also started with some smoke and mirrors stuff called DSI (Dynamic System Initiative) and IOI (Infrastructure Optimization Initiative) but lately these two started to become quite clear.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">About one year ago DCM (Desired Configuration Management) for SMS was introduced and just after that MOM and SMS and a bunch of other products changed their names to System Center Configuration Manager and System Center Operation Manager.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">I just flew back from Seattle where I was at the SCCM 2007 TAP airlift and am now at the Microsoft Architecture forum in Copenhagen with a terrible jetlag running thru the agenda for today. I can remember one of the talks I had with a Microsoft Architect in Seattle about SDM (System Definition Model) and SLM (Service Modeling Language). The Architect actually managed to bring our talk to System Center Service Desk via DCM.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">And again I look at the agenda of the Architect Forum in Copenhagen and I see a track about Service Desk â€œTake a first look at the tool that will be the &#8220;brain&#8221; of our Self Managing Dynamic Datacenter. See how we are planning to automate ITIL based processes and let the other members of System Center family execute them. The new possibilities for Self Service, and see our implementation of CMDBâ€?.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">I do some queries on the MS site and I find the following quite interesting document </font><a href="http://download.microsoft.com/download/b/3/8/b38239c7-2766-4632-9b13-33cf08fad522/sdmwp.doc"><font face="Calibri">http://download.microsoft.com/download/b/3/8/b38239c7-2766-4632-9b13-33cf08fad522/sdmwp.doc</font></a></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">But the odd thing I rememberÂ about the Seattle talkÂ is that I did not only talk about management of products with the MS Architect I also talked about deployment and he is actually a member of a deployment solution team.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Wouldnâ€™t it be fun if CMDB becomes a Deployment Database besides a Configuration Database? System Center Configuration Manager has a Operating System Deployment component so it is capable of doing deployments and it would solve the problem that the CMDB info is never up to date.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Rob</font></p>
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		<title>Charity @ Microsoft</title>
		<link>http://www.buit.org/2007/02/26/charity-microsoft/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Molenaar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am enjoying my time at the SCCM 2007 TAP Airlift in Redmond with Dennis and Bannie. Today it is not so clouded, it is actually a nice sunny day so I can have one of my few cigarettes outside bacause of the smoking policy.. Inside the building I saw one of Microsoftâ€™s charity projects [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font face="Calibri">I am enjoying my time at the SCCM 2007 TAP Airlift in Redmond with Dennis and Bannie. Today it is not so clouded, it is actually a nice sunny day so I can have one of my few cigarettes outside bacause of the smoking policy..</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Inside the building I saw one of Microsoftâ€™s charity projects so I took a picture. Hopefully you can see the make of this rack because the quality is really poor. Besides the rack they have a Sun box setup running Vista <img src='http://www.buit.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri"><img width="240" src="http://www.buit.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dc070226003.jpg" height="320" /></font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Rob</font></p>
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		<title>hungry wolve</title>
		<link>http://www.buit.org/2007/02/24/hungry-wolve/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Molenaar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lately I moved from VMWare Server to VMWare Workstation 6.0 beta which is great because you can copy files much easier, no need to copy files from ip-address to ip-address address, just copy and paste files to the virtual machines desktop. About two weeks ago in the US I experienced something strange. I was building [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font face="Calibri">Lately I moved from VMWare Server to VMWare Workstation 6.0 beta which is great because you can copy files much easier, no need to copy files from ip-address to ip-address address, just copy and paste files to the virtual machines desktop.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">About two weeks ago in the US I experienced something strange. I was building a media deployment point in BDD 2007 Deployment WorkBench for a custom Vista image with applications and run out of disk space on my laptop which is strange because I use an external disk drive for my virtuals and I was absolutely sure to have something like 10GB free disk space, I checkedÂ disk spaceÂ a couple of days before</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">When I checked my free disk space now it was 900MB! </font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">So what else can you do besides cleaningâ€¦ Empty the recycle bin, not much in it. Look at you temp folder in your profile, check the size, 9GB!!!!! WOW, do I serve as a public ftp server for the rest o the company or worse, the Internet?</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Then I looked at the â€œC:\Users\rmolenaar\AppData\Local\Temp\VMwareDnDâ€? Â folder, some directories andÂ oneÂ directory with my previous Media Deployment Point attempt inside (about 4GB). That one actually failed. I was sure about copying it just before I left the building but I did not see anything on my desktop when I was back in the hotel. The only thing I saw when I resumed from standby was a copying folder which I thought I did by accident so I closed it.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">What happens when you copy files from virtual machine to your desktop is that VMWare first copies all stuff to a temporary location and after that it copies the files to your desktop. So when you copy a 4GB Media Deployment Point you need 8GB disk space.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Anyway when I came home I also saw that my deployment virtual machine size increased with quite a bit. So I looked in my temp folder on the virtual machineÂ  â€œC:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Temp\VMwareDnDâ€? and I saw the same thing.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">I donâ€™t know if this is a beta issue but for all those VMWare 6.0 beta guys out there, check your temp folders when you move a lot of files from Physical to Virtuals and back</font></p>
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		<title>Another Vista Certification</title>
		<link>http://www.buit.org/2007/01/21/another-vista-certification/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Molenaar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[just had a look at my MCP page and&#8230;. Yes another Vista certification Â Microsoft Certification Status Credential Certification / VersionÂ  Date Achieved Â  Microsoft Certified Technology SpecialistÂ Â  Nov 13, 2006 Microsoft Windows Vista: ConfigurationÂ  Nov 13, 2006]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just had a look at my MCP page and&#8230;. Yes another Vista certification</p>
<p>Â Microsoft Certification Status</p>
<p>Credential Certification / VersionÂ  Date Achieved<br />
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Microsoft Certified Technology SpecialistÂ Â  Nov 13, 2006<br />
Microsoft Windows Vista: ConfigurationÂ  Nov 13, 2006</p>
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		<title>BDD 2007 RC1 evaluation</title>
		<link>http://www.buit.org/2006/12/13/bdd-2007-rc1-evaluation/</link>
		<comments>http://www.buit.org/2006/12/13/bdd-2007-rc1-evaluation/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Molenaar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a couple of days after the Exchange 2007 RTM party at Jeroenâ€™s.Â  Although quite late I still had the power to hit the spacebar and press F5 to find the BDD 2007 RC1 build on connect. So a short evaluationÂ  I started to do an uninstall of a TAP beta and install of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a couple of days after the Exchange 2007 RTM party at Jeroenâ€™s.Â </p>
<p>Although quite late I still had the power to hit the spacebar and press F5 to find the BDD 2007 RC1 build on connect. So a short evaluationÂ </p>
<p>I started to do an uninstall of a TAP beta and install of the BDD 2007 RC1 bits. That looked alright but after a while I started to have problems. The task sequencer xml was updated and because it is a modified file an uninstall of BDD 2007 TAP beta leaves it behind in the build folder of the OS. So the best thing to do is start over&#8230;Â </p>
<p>What I did so far&#8230;Â </p>
<p>Â I created aÂ lite touch build with some core apps like Office 2007, Office communicator 2005 and the forefront client and deployed it WDS, works great.Â </p>
<p>Then I started with some serious stuff ZTI. i created an OS image with only the sms client (you need it for ZTI) and started to configure ZTI. One of the most interested things is the way BDD 2007 handles drivers. You can configure driver groups (to handle 32 and 64 bit drivers). This is necessary because some vendors do not build their inf&#8217;s correct.Â </p>
<p>What happens at deployment time is that the BDD scripts check the pnp id&#8217;s of the available devices and compare these with available drivers and driver groups on the network. If there is something to use the scripts copy only the necessary drivers!Â </p>
<p>The other nice feature is that almost all configuration of BDD 2007 is stored in a handful of xml files so migrating them over to a newer version is easy.Â </p>
<p>Anyway, with some struggling because of naming conventions I managed to do a ZTI of XP SP2 and refresh that OS to Vista RTM with office. Other features I tested was dynamic packages, role based packages and make model packages.Â Dynamic packages is the best, you just drop an image on a machine and at the state restore sequence it start installing previous installed programs based on a stored procedure and some lookups in the SMS DB add/remove programs view of the previous OS. I have to admit I used our own inhouse developed DB tool.</p>
<p>Try it yourself, deployment hasn&#8217;t been that easyÂ </p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>The power of together</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Molenaar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting new MS site about Windows Vista and Office Professional and free licenses, but you have to work for it http://www.powertogether.com/ cheers Rob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting new MS site about Windows Vista and Office Professional and free licenses, but you have to work for it <a href="http://www.powertogether.com/">http://www.powertogether.com/</a></p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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